Joined on 02 August 2010 at 11:31 --------------------- Clive Shepherd: Hi Hayley --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd: Hi Clive... --------------------- Moderator (Clive Shepherd): Can you remind me where I go to do audio setup? --------------------- Craig Taylor: Hi Clive --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd: Tools --> Audio --> Audio set up --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Craig Taylor: Hi Clive --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Craig Taylor: Hi Craig - glad you made it. --------------------- Moderator (Clive Shepherd): No Barry? --------------------- Craig Taylor: Thanks for your help this a.m Hayley --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): No worries Craig. --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd: Not yet, he said he would be here by now though. :-/ --------------------- Moderator (Clive Shepherd): Hayley - can you set things up so Barry and I can speak at the same time? --------------------- Helen Burchmore: Ditto - thanks for letting me join so late! Unfortunately I may have to duck out early - will this session be available to download after the event? --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Clive Shepherd: Yes, all done under tools --> audio __> max sim talkers. Set to two at the moment --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Hi Barry, welcome... --------------------- Moderator (Clive Shepherd) to Barry Sampson: Barry - how are doing the poll on slide 4? --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: HI. Phew, taken 15 mins to launch Elluminate. Was starting to panic... --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): Hi Helen, yesm the session will be recorded. I willfill everyone in when we start.... --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson) to Clive Shepherd: Will use the in built polling to swap the red cross/green tick to ABC --------------------- Moderator (Clive Shepherd) to Barry Sampson: OK --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: [Tools --> polling] --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson) to Craig Taylor: Hi Craig. Glad to see you made it ok :) --------------------- Alexandra: Hi, i do not have a mcrophone so will be listening and asking questions in the Q&A box --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): Hi Alexandra, that is perfectly fine and the setup we prefer all attendess to have ;-) --------------------- Alex Whittaker: Will there be a sound check before we start? --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson) to Alexandra: We'll be watching the Q&A for questins throughout the session. --------------------- Paul Jones to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: I have no microphone - will this be ok? Also I may have to 'dip-out' at some stage... Sorry --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): Hi Alex, best thing to do is check your own audio set up. You can do this by going the Audio Setup Wizard: Tools --> Audio --> Audio set up --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Paul Jones: Hi Paul, perfectly ok. We prefer this way of working the session. --------------------- Craig Taylor: Cheers Barry, between you and Hayley you got me here! --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Craig Taylor: :-) --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): There will be a sound check at the start of the session, but you may all want to check your own audio by going to Tools > Audio > Audio Setup Wizard --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Barry Sampson: Hi Barry - I am happing to help with the technical questions. This should take the pressure off throughout your presentation. --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): Force of habit :) --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): Happy to leave it to you! --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Barry Sampson: Oh God.... I should have kept quiet! :-) --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Hello there. SHould there be sound? I hear nothing. --------------------- Henryk: No sound here either I'm afraid. --------------------- Craig Taylor: Henryk: Check your volume is up/umnuted --------------------- Henryk: Audio works fine otherwise --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N2YVDKB --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Henryk: Henryk - can you hear now? All sorted further to Craig's suggestion? --------------------- Henryk: I'm afraid no - just no audio, remainder is fine. --------------------- Craig Taylor: Henryk: Mic not plugged in the headphone socket? --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Henryk: Maybe best to try the Audio Setup Wizard: Tools > Audio > Audio Setup Wizard --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Craig Taylor: Thanks Craig for helping Henryk. I have suggested he try the audio setup.... --------------------- Souvik: Could we have this question sent as a message please? --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): In 1987, why would the eLearning Network have been a good organisation to join if your endeavours meant that you had to carefully manage the feelings of other people? --------------------- Moderator (Clive Shepherd): In 1987, why would the eLearning Network have been a good org to join if your work required you to adapt to situations with sensitivity (or words to that effect) --------------------- Nicola Dennis: A --------------------- Souvik to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: sorry, but when do we need to send the answer? --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): I'll be inviting you al to send the answer to the trivia chalenge at the end of the session. --------------------- Souvik to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Thanks, i have the answer already --------------------- Sam Reavill: Why live - attendees can ask questions --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Helps create a buzz of discussion which asynchronous doesn't always do --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: to create a community of distance learners --------------------- Craig Taylor: Ability to record and offer to those unable to attend --------------------- Joe Quilter: Can get things done quickly --------------------- Sara Dunn: international meetings - cost savings --------------------- Helen Burchmore: spontenaity (sorry) - catch the moment --------------------- Liz Preedy: Community rather than network --------------------- Wilma Alexander: HAve used for online distance ed. In Sc some useful shared lecture work with experts too distant to travel --------------------- Alex Whittaker: can reach an international audience --------------------- Andy Nock: Cost reductions, no need to travel, do while in the office --------------------- Wilma Alexander: "Live" with a world-ranking expert is special for students --------------------- Paul Jones: It considers ability, or lack of ability to attend for whatever reason... --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Reduction in travel for students who work on farms for instance, ability to join in from home. --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: allows everyone a voice in a way face to face might not be able to --------------------- Craig Taylor: Helps to embed Learning Technologies as a whole --------------------- Ron Mitchell: responsive and social interaction - not exclusive though - best for thos that can participate but still available as recording for those who can't --------------------- Sam Reavill: Cost effective, meetings & training session without the need to travel --------------------- Helen Burchmore: for shy people ! --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Can be far more interactive (provided people allow it to be!) --------------------- Jak Radice: good for distance learners --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Great! --------------------- Alison Innes-Farquhar: Leadership opportunities from a distance - having a presence --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Must be carefully managed though - can still feel like an "in-crowd) knows what tghey are doing --------------------- Craig Taylor: Wilma< good point --------------------- Ron Mitchell: often completely different group dynamic - the usual culprits can't dominate - easier to control ;-) --------------------- PhilWane: Flexibility of location - I'm at home today not my office. --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent): allwos time for reflective learners to formulate their ideas before sharing them --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Like, if I'm no good at multi-tasking keeping something going in chat while paying attention to speakers / slides is hard! --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): Are we able to save the chat content? --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Yes. --------------------- Souvik: allows learners to simultaneously check online resources while the classroom is in progress. Imagine having the whole of google in a schoolbag. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Books --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: radio --------------------- Alex Whittaker: radio? --------------------- Sarah Darley: Radio? --------------------- pdonaghy: newspapers --------------------- Sam Reavill: radio? --------------------- Oona McPolin: radio --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Radio --------------------- Craig Taylor: audio --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent): radio --------------------- Simon 1: Radio --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: File > save > chat conversation --------------------- Helen Burchmore: radio, books --------------------- Andy Nock: radio --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent) to Souvik: great point souvs --------------------- Matt Watson: humour --------------------- Joe Quilter: interesting point - friends and family of Marconi considered putting him in a mental institute as they thought the idea of wireless radio was madness --------------------- Paul White: drama --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: music, stories, interviews --------------------- Alex Whittaker: describe the surroundings in words --------------------- Craig Taylor: video streaming (Radaio 1) --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Breaking up the content --------------------- Karen Kear: phone-ins --------------------- Helen Burchmore: foley sounds to create atmosphere, links to other media --------------------- Sarah Darley: Competitions --------------------- Oona McPolin: record in front of audience --------------------- Judith Williams: word pictures --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): I'll have a look..... ;-) --------------------- Wilma Alexander: The reality of the human voice - especially in aiding the understanding --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Live content --------------------- Alison Innes-Farquhar: I am aware that Chris Evans has a sporting chllenge where you can only be involved by going to the internet to watch the challenge - a good example of blended learning - using radio! watched by thousands of us! --------------------- Souvik to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Sorry, am a bit new to Elluminate. So replying to Hayley's comment: TACT is the answer! --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Bullet points to remind you what to say much better --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Music before session a great idea if possible as we can sort audio before it starts:) --------------------- Craig Taylor: Beyond Bullet Points = good read --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Souvik: Thank you! --------------------- Alison Stewart: Smile as you speak (think of telephone technique) apparently you sound better ! --------------------- Souvik to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Pleasure :). by the way, this is my first webinar and I'm really liking it. --------------------- Wilma Alexander: @Craig yes indeed - tools for your own use rather than sharing --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent) to Alison Stewart: Hi Alison, this is a good webinar isn't it? Already got loads of ideas! --------------------- Alison Stewart: Hi Anna - yes it is. --------------------- Craig Taylor: skills --------------------- Sam Reavill: introduction --------------------- Wilma Alexander: To help encourage community --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: To find out what someone looks like - building relationships --------------------- Alex Whittaker: Rarely - inevitable tech problems --------------------- Steve Hodges: Demonstration --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Variety --------------------- Craig Taylor: personnel who have never met --------------------- Sam Reavill: keep engagement --------------------- Jak Radice: to see the participants are real --------------------- Helen Burchmore: allows some non-verbal feedback --------------------- Paul Jones: Practical application/ demo of theory... --------------------- Liz Preedy: intro to recognize i know the person --------------------- Ian G: Presentations/introduction from external experts. --------------------- Joe Quilter: Depends on how good looking they are --------------------- Ron Mitchell: introductions at beginning and bringing in unknown guest speakers --------------------- Joe Quilter: :-) --------------------- Sam Reavill: keeps the attendees engaged epecially if your slides are not moving --------------------- Alison Stewart: I find the webcam can be distracting sometimes - distorts the image. --------------------- Souvik: I agree Alison --------------------- Oona McPolin: Just a photo can be good during introductions to see what participants look like. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Bad webcam = worse than no webcam at all --------------------- Alison Stewart: I agree, Sarah --------------------- Helen Burchmore: if doing video from home - remember to get dressed first! --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Definately agree sarah, more distracting!! --------------------- Ron Mitchell: lighting also important --------------------- Alison Stewart: I think photo is good idea --------------------- Paul Jones: Are there concerns about streaming speeds??? --------------------- Souvik: well, as long as the webcam isn't panned all the time and the focus is maintained --------------------- pdonaghy: good audio is more important --------------------- Craig Taylor: Depends on the subject??? --------------------- Paul Jones: It depends on the topic surely --------------------- PhilWane: Audio versus video - it depends... --------------------- Paul White: Depends on the subject --------------------- Souvik: On second thoughts, I agree with Craig --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Visual distractions from video when looking at whiteboard / slides can be horrible --------------------- SueC: good mix is better --------------------- Joe Quilter: Agreed - video one of the most powerful medias --------------------- Helen Burchmore: if multiple contibutors (like this) how can video work?? --------------------- Wilma Alexander: If you need video to actually show something you probably need to make a high-quality production --------------------- Alison Stewart: I've read some reserach into audio feedback in which students preferred having just audio as opposed to video feedback --------------------- V Joseph: Audio quality is key for us. --------------------- Alison Stewart: The research was Leeds' Met's pilot into audio feedback (bob Rotheram) --------------------- Helen Burchmore: thanks alison --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Radio 4 manages to cover all of those topics without images at all! --------------------- Alison Stewart: Sounds like the issue of using relevant and well designed visual aids in conventional lectures --------------------- Wilma Alexander: @Sarah - wioth professional production to help with soundscapes etc! --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): @Alison - absolutely. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: True - but it does show that it's possible. Images are a backdrop, they're not the sum total of impact --------------------- Craig Taylor: memory aid for presenter as opposed to Bullet Points --------------------- Judith Williams: 90% --------------------- Helen Burchmore: 70% --------------------- Alison Stewart: 60% --------------------- Craig Taylor: 88 --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent) to Alison Stewart: 85% --------------------- Simon 1: 90 --------------------- Sam Reavill: 75% --------------------- Eleni: 90% --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: 80 --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): 60% --------------------- Louisa Thomas: 95% --------------------- Costas Johnson: 70 --------------------- Keiran Henderson: 70 --------------------- Paul Jones: 80 --------------------- Souvik: 70 --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Struck by how much of what we have to do to get online clasrooms to work well is so close to good practice in any "trad" context. --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): @Sarah - true, but Radio 4 is of course focussed on audio only production, whereas most of the rest of us aren't. --------------------- Alison Stewart: Yes - I couldn't help but see links --------------------- Craig Taylor: Can't wait for this image... --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): @Wilma - Very much so, although there are a few things that are unique to the medium. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Ah, that image tells me about the deeper impact of educational dissemination via online means... very deep... --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: :) --------------------- Souvik: I guess it varies from person to person. I had to 'see' the question before I got what was asked of us --------------------- Kate Gregory: reinforcement --------------------- PhilWane: When it is relevant --------------------- Joe Quilter: to reinforce a message --------------------- Helen Burchmore: summarising what is spoken --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: To help signpost or emphasize --------------------- Craig Taylor: According to Cliff Atkinson it isn't (Beyond Bullet Points) --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Focusing --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: for questions, instructions, summary --------------------- Helen Burchmore: additional 'take away' message and links --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent): to display figures/stats --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Reinforcement, guide for presenter, summary, thought map to amake it easier too follow --------------------- Souvik: I would say emphasising the focus# --------------------- Steve Hodges: Grouping content (that's not on screen) --------------------- Souvik: exactly as i said earlier about questions --------------------- Souvik: :) --------------------- PhilWane: Sometimes as aide-memoire for presenter --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: If you're discussing the language itself, i.e. language lecturing etc --------------------- Alison Stewart: I agree about seeing the question - those visual learners often need to see the question as well. --------------------- Souvik: Agree with Phil --------------------- Craig Taylor: audio anybody? --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: I went to a presentation and the presenter managed 28 bullet points on one slide... --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: *faint* --------------------- Souvik: that's worse than 28 bullets --------------------- Joe Quilter: words also take the focus away from what the presenter is saying if too much --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: @Souvik I think you were at that presentation with me! --------------------- Paul Jones: Pictures can keep people engaged if used correctly... --------------------- V Joseph: We train lawyers. What we've found most interesting about virtual classrooms is that delegates want - and can process - far larger amounts of text than in face-to-face training. --------------------- Souvik: @ Sarah oops! that one --------------------- Paul Jones: Its also important to know the origins of the images to avoid litigation! --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Don't just reference images as 'from Google' :) --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: www.compfight.com is great for searching for CC licenced images --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): Thanks Sarah --------------------- Alex Whittaker: This is a good one too: http://www.sxc.hu/ --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent) to Sarah Horrigan: thanks sarah --------------------- Sarah Horrigan to Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent): no probs! --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): Thanks Alex, I use that one myself. --------------------- Craig Taylor: Gotta go folks, audio has gone --------------------- Alison Stewart: I once heard the saying 'use visual aids and text not as drunk man uses a lampost - for support - but for illumination. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Nice saying, Alison! --------------------- Alison Stewart: Once you work it out !!! Source - wa a tutor used it in a session I attended some 25 years ago and it was unsourced ! --------------------- Alex Whittaker: Superfreakonomics. Amazing book --------------------- Alison Stewart: I've heard that book is great --------------------- Paul Jones: But we can learn easier from combining these facilities and developing some personal input too --------------------- PhilWane: Interaction or engagement comes in many forms... --------------------- Souvik: radio as passive medium? Just wondering about combination of radio and telephone in chat shows / music shows --------------------- Alison Stewart: I agree with Paul - nothing to beat all of those with a bit of trial and experimentation --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Radio doesn't have to be passive unless you remove it entirely from the context from which people listen, i.e. anywhere --------------------- Alison Stewart: Learn by doing - just as I am today on elluminate for the first time 1 --------------------- Joe Quilter: PowerPoint presentations are pervasive in our business culture. Yet far too often, they are used, to paraphrase advertising legend David Ogilvy, like a drunk uses a lamppost…more for support than for illumination. --------------------- Paul Jones: here here Alison --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): @Alison - Totally agree. I hope it's going well.... --------------------- Alison Stewart: So far so good, thanks --------------------- Alison Stewart: quizzes and q&a --------------------- Andy Nock: Tick and cross --------------------- Matt Watson: Desktop sharing --------------------- Paul Jones: voting systems --------------------- Joe Quilter: voting --------------------- Liz Preedy: chat --------------------- Henryk: polls --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Voting, discussion, chat, video etc --------------------- Simon 1: voting, chat, smileys --------------------- Karen Kear: text chat --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: talking in small groups, polling, drawing... --------------------- Jak Radice: polls --------------------- Keiran Henderson: quiz? --------------------- Andy Nock: chat --------------------- Louisa Thomas: Forums --------------------- Sam Reavill: Polls --------------------- Sarah Darley: Emoticons --------------------- Sam Reavill: Tick, cross --------------------- pdonaghy: chat --------------------- Matt Watson: drawing tools --------------------- Judith Williams: discussion --------------------- Jak Radice: desktop sharing --------------------- Sam Reavill: Emoticons --------------------- Alison Stewart: wikis - act together to create something --------------------- Simon 1: whiteboard --------------------- Ron Mitchell: whiteboard --------------------- pdonaghy: polls --------------------- Sam Reavill: annotation tools --------------------- Matt Watson: 20 minutes --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent): 10 --------------------- Judith Williams: 15 --------------------- Simon 1: 15 --------------------- Keiran Henderson: 2 mins --------------------- Alison Stewart: every 10 --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: 5 mins --------------------- Souvik: 10 --------------------- Liz Preedy: 6 minues max --------------------- Jak Radice: every 10 mins --------------------- Nicola Dennis: Every 15 --------------------- Joe Quilter: one every 10 mins --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: 10 - 15 --------------------- Sam Reavill: 5 mins --------------------- Henryk: every 15 or so? --------------------- Alex Whittaker: 10 --------------------- Eleni: 10 mins --------------------- Paul Jones: 10 --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Every 10 - 20 mins --------------------- Ron Mitchell: 5-10 --------------------- PhilWane: 10-15 mins --------------------- Wilma Alexander: 10 mins --------------------- Louisa Thomas: Serial --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Parallel --------------------- Sam Reavill: parallel --------------------- Joe Quilter: parallel --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): parallel --------------------- Paul Jones: parallel --------------------- Wilma Alexander: parallel --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Parallel --------------------- Alison Stewart: parallel --------------------- Ron Mitchell: parallel --------------------- Jak Radice: parallel --------------------- Alex Whittaker: parallel --------------------- Sarah Darley: parallel --------------------- Eleni: parallel --------------------- pdonaghy: parallel --------------------- Henryk: serial --------------------- Souvik: depends on the context --------------------- Alison Innes-Farquhar: serial --------------------- Liz Preedy: more serial would be good --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: parallel --------------------- Kate Gregory: parra --------------------- Judith Williams: parallel --------------------- Helen Donelan: depends on numbers --------------------- Nicola Dennis: Depends on task parrallel --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent): depends on how many people involved --------------------- Paul Jones: with practice... --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: People can feel invisible if there's too much parallel interaction --------------------- Steve Hodges: Parallel then move to serial to explore key ideas --------------------- Paul Jones: Some want to be invisible but learn anyway! --------------------- Alison Stewart: I agree, Paul --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Invisible can be good - but not so much in small groups --------------------- Anna Armstrong (Nottingham Trent): parallel is effective where the tutor comments on contributions as is happening here --------------------- Wilma Alexander: But sooo reassuring to have people agree / make a comment you were going to make --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Especially if you need group discussion / contribution --------------------- Alison Stewart: And considering the venue your participants are in - if we're using mikes - are they somewhere they can speak easily and interact. --------------------- Andy Nock: @ Alison - i agree - if I started talking here in the open office, i'd get a few weird looks! --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: I think you have to be flexible with your interactions too - and adapt as you go, just as you would in the classroom (even though this is tricky with pre-designed slides) --------------------- Frances Chetwynd: It's difficult when some have a mic and some don't --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Not having a mic when everyone else does is frustrating! --------------------- Liz Preedy: It's a great handbook! --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: TACT was formed (The Association for Computer Based Training) in 1987 --------------------- Jak Radice: Something to do with being TACTful --------------------- Andy Nock: In 1987, The Assosication for CBT (TACT) was formed. --------------------- Souvik: TACT --------------------- Sam Reavill: tact --------------------- Frances Chetwynd: If lots don't have a mic usually the remainder stop talking --------------------- Alison Innes-Farquhar: no idea but I would like the book anyway --------------------- Alex Whittaker: The Hurricane! --------------------- Paul Jones: Well said Alison... --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): barry@onlignment.com --------------------- Paul Jones: Must learn to type quicker! --------------------- Alison Stewart: OK Anna - we're all sharing ! --------------------- Jak Radice: j.radice@bradford.ac.uk and thanks --------------------- Craig Taylor: Audio on, I'm back! --------------------- Sarah Darley: Great - thanks for the link! --------------------- Paul Jones: p.jones1@ljmu.ac.uk ta --------------------- Souvik: am a webinar newbie so perhaps a silly question. i’m having some trouble switching my attention between the chat messages and the slides. just wondering how this will work in virtual classrooms? --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): The book - http://bit.ly/liveonlinebook --------------------- Liz Preedy: What are the skills that differ from live presentations --------------------- Craig Taylor: Elluminate Vs Adobe connect Vs WebEx - whats your opinion? --------------------- PhilWane: How long did it take to prepare the session today? --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Having moderators can help --------------------- Paul Jones: What do undergrad students think of the method? --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: They can keep an eye on the chat while the main person talks --------------------- Alex Whittaker: Good session - thanks peeps. --------------------- Ron Mitchell: not a question but re - interactions for everyone: for smaller groups I've used the following: divide up the whiteboard screen into a box for each delegate (grid) and disable text chat and use grid instead - ensures everyone responds and everyone see who hasn't e.g. peer pressure and easier to keep track of everyone's response --------------------- Alison Stewart: Useful question, Phil --------------------- Paul Jones: I like the idea of multiple moderators... --------------------- Souvik: Thanks :) --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Very tricky for presenters but also for new participants. I think that's why a practice / intro session is so important --------------------- Neill McWilliams: what is your experience in choosing the right tool to use to host the webinar --------------------- Matt Watson: I have a question, more about technology out there. I teach software to people overseas. I would like to know if you can recommend some way of seeing their screens, so that I can follow how they get on during exercises. --------------------- Paul Jones: A thought about multiple moderators - is it seen as an expensive delivery??? --------------------- Wilma Alexander: @Matt - don't know about Elluiminate but Adobe products have screen-sharing --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: It doesn't have to be - you could have a student as a moderator to help run the session --------------------- Andy Nock: @Matt - I like dimdim - it looks simple and easy to use --------------------- Matt Watson: Thanks Wilma --------------------- Karen Kear: When/why would you use a live session in preference to asynchronous interaction (e.g. via forums) --------------------- Andy Nock: you also don't need to download anything to watch DimDim (shame about the name though) --------------------- Sam Reavill: Teleconference VS VoIP for training, do you feel that VoIP is good enough to use for an onine training session? or would you use Teleconference? --------------------- Wilma Alexander: If your institution supports something, use that ;-} --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: @Karen - I think the type of conversation can vary in synchronous vs. asynchronous - so it depends on the type of interaction --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: What has been the most successful activity you have run in an online classroom? --------------------- Judith Williams: What can you do to encourage students to attend online tutorials? --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: There are free alternatives like DimDim which don't require any installation and can be an alternative --------------------- Matt Watson: Thanks Andy --------------------- Paul Jones: I'm worried that 'Wimba' hasn't been mentioned - anyone used it??? --------------------- Jak Radice: Elluminate now bought up by Blackboard --------------------- Wilma Alexander: And Wimba also Bb now, so products should converge --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: The principle of using virtual classrooms is more important than the software specifics - as long as you have the online skills to moderate, you can normally adapt quite easily --------------------- Steve Hodges: Writing sessions for other people to host and present - on average how much extra time will that take to develop/produce --------------------- PhilWane: Thanks for the answer - was interested to get a sense of what goes into a session "off the timetable" as it were. Something much discussed at my uni in relation to teaching hours etc. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: What would you say was the ideal length for an online session? I find running them quite an intense experience --------------------- Matt Watson: Sarah, I usually keep mine to a maximum of 90 minutes --------------------- Frances Chetwynd: @sarah I wouldn't do more than an hour --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: I find I'm flagging after about 45 mins! --------------------- Craig Taylor: SMARTSync --------------------- Frances Chetwynd: Depends how many stds have microphones --------------------- Alison Innes-Farquhar: Anyone used GoTO Meeting/Training --------------------- Sam Reavill: Webex also allows you to have break out sessions and hands on lab sessions --------------------- Alison Stewart: It feels like a conventional seminar in terms of attention span - 45 to 60 mins ! Then I like a break - I'd do that anyway even if running whole day sessions. --------------------- Matt Watson: Thank you --------------------- Paul Jones: How much would you allow participants to be involved 'on screen', using the interactive tools? --------------------- Alison Stewart: I agree about mixing live and asynchronous - I've liked the immediate feedback in the live session - great for generating ideas. --------------------- Frances Chetwynd: @paul I usually encourage students to type onto the bioard ior move objects around --------------------- Paul Jones: Chaos with a large group??? --------------------- Frances Chetwynd: I've tried it with 10 making mind maps and things --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Breakout rooms can help with group management --------------------- Souvik: @Sarah good idea --------------------- Frances Chetwynd: @sarah yes I've got smaller groups to make mind maps in breakput rooms and then bring the maps back for discussion in the whole group --------------------- Paul Jones: Like it... --------------------- Alison Stewart: yes - agree Souvik - bit like using syndiate rooms or sending people to differetn corners of the room in a physical sesison. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Requires planning - just like any other teaching session! --------------------- Alison Stewart: Hear hear ! --------------------- Sarah Darley: Thank you! --------------------- Alison Innes-Farquhar: magic session - thanks --------------------- Kate Gregory: Fab session- best one you have done! --------------------- Sarah Cornelius: Great session - many thanks --------------------- Jak Radice: fab thanks --------------------- Paul Jones: Thanks moderators - a good session!!!! :-) --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): Evaluation URL: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N2YVDKB The webinar recording and presentations will be uploaded to ALT’s Open Access Repository http://repository.alt.ac.uk/ and the URL will be sent to all attendees by email this week. Previous eLN/ALT Webinars can be found here: http://repository.alt.ac.uk/view/divisions/ALT=2FELN/ --------------------- Alison Stewart: Many thanks for an excellent session - I have really enjoyed my first webinar. --------------------- Sarah Horrigan: Thanks very much - really good session - and thanks for the discussion too --------------------- pdonaghy: Thanks Barry and Clive. Very useful. --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): Thank you all. it's been good fun. --------------------- Keiran Henderson: Excellent, thank you! --------------------- Craig Taylor: Cheers Barry & Clive --------------------- Liz Preedy: Thanks - great session --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson): barry@onlignment.com clive@onlignment.com --------------------- Nicola Dennis: Thank you --------------------- Karen Kear: Thanks - Bye all --------------------- Sam Reavill: Thanks Barry , Cive and Hayley :) --------------------- SueC: thank you very much - very useful --------------------- Wilma Alexander: Many thanks --------------------- Souvik: Great session! Looking forward to more such sessions. --------------------- Ron Mitchell: thanks all --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey): Evaluation URL: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N2YVDKB The webinar recording and presentations will be uploaded to ALT’s Open Access Repository http://repository.alt.ac.uk/ and the URL will be sent to all attendees by email this week. Previous eLN/ALT Webinars can be found here: http://repository.alt.ac.uk/view/divisions/ALT=2FELN/ --------------------- PhilWane: Another useful webinar from ALT - and the participants. --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: THANK YOU ;-) --------------------- Steve Hodges: Very useful, thank you --------------------- ALT/eLN How to run a virtual classroom: Many thanks to you all:) --------------------- Moderator (Barry Sampson) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Thank you. A very good session I think. --------------------- Moderator (Hayley Maisey) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Went down very well. --------------------- Moderator (Clive Shepherd) to Hayley Maisey, Clive Shepherd, Barry Sampson: Yes, pleased with that